[Taijutsu] Infinite Sword Display [Kudo, Botan]

[Akayuuki]

Name: Mugen ken hyouji [Lit: Infinite Sword Display]

Rank: A Rank

Type: Offensive

Fighting Style: Fighting style

Range: Close

Element: N/A

Village Origin: Hyouga

Prerequisites: 24 Swords from: Ijoufu Ken
(http://www.theninja-forum.com/Vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1309489#post1309489)
Description:

When activating the Fighting style known as Mugen Ken Hyouji, one must throw there case of swords into the sky, in such a way that when coming back down to the ground, the swords all stick into the ground, once this is done, it will make an area of attack around the opponent. This area of attack covers a total of about 30 square feet, anything outside of this area cannot be attacked for the time being, but anything within the area is noticed instantly and able to be tracked, and is also made free game to attack. After the swords are in the ground, the user has the ability to move 1 tier faster within the area of attack, as well as being faster, he knows where each and every sword is at all times within the area of attack with an upkeep of a A Rank per post, the users motions become fluid and almost instinctual.

The way this is done, is the user Taps one of the swords and injects chakra into the field, the chakra spreads around the whole area and connects the user to it. Than once knowing what is inside of the area of attack is clear the user must expend a B Ranks worth of stamina per post to increase the speed of him self, when inside of the area of attack, the user is in total attack mode. The swords cannot be pulled out of the ground by anyone but the user, and can be used in anyway the user sees fit, this is because of the chakra that is running through the swords.

Post Duration: Until the user turns off the fighting style.

Upkeep: B Rank of Stamina & A Rank of Chakra per post

Creator: Kudo, Botan

Training Time: 15 Days

Note: Cannot be used indoors.

[Urbanninja]

Bleach much? anyway way over powered for A this would be close to a kinjutsu or probably is one I would tone down the excellent strength and 2 tier speed because as a taijustu it's already hax enough you can keep them in a small area without a means of escape.

[Yurane]

That's hilarious. Giving someone with horrible strength a style that makes all his attacks hit as if it's excellent, as well as making him faster. No, Aka.

[Akayuuki]

k, so how about the faster than ? the strength was just an attempt to see if it would fly lol im cool with just the speed.

also urban, unless your retarded....you can jump over a few swords lol.

[Urbanninja]

as a taijustu it's already hax enough you can keep them in a small area without a means of escape.

stating this again, you already have excellent speed so getting rank +2 *WTF* is a little extreme...

EDIT I was under the impression you couldn't...

[Akayuuki]

why wouldn't you be able to jump over a sword ? its a purly close quarters tactic, the point is i give you enough hell that you cant get away, not that you cant. also, 2 tier is fairly low considering this is an A Rank, there are B Ranked jutsu that increase a single strength by one tier. so this shouldnt be a problem.

[kajowwojak]

I would like to say that this is actually Soul Eater, not Bleach.

How exactly would throwing swords into the air and landing all around you make you faster, or give you any Physical powers anyways?

The idea itself isn't bad, Swords sticking into the ground means you have to weave around. And the inability to remove them from the groun (Except for you) is pretty useful...

But that being said, I don't see how you get the physical status boosts.

[Urbanninja]

yes but the fact your already excellent is, eh... also that clears somethings up I thought there was some magical hax barrier that forced you to stay within the swords, basically because that's cleared up I have no problem with this...

[Akayuuki]

nope, and also yes its from soul eater, and also its there because as i just said, stamina resonates between the swords and increases my abilties, its in the app lol

[Kambei Shimata]

All I'd like to say is that this reminded me of the finishing move that cloud used in final fantasy 7: advent children. The only difference is the swords here are on the ground and not the air like with cloud but kinda same thing as his speed was really fast and sephiroth was in the middle of it and could do nothing. That is all lol.

[Yuki Aisu]

Spamming aside, what prevents the swords from being pulled out? Since it's taijustu, and that part seems more ninjutsu to me. It doesn't make sense to me, and usually 'chakra hax' would suffice, but this isn't a ninjutsu. In fact, knowing where your swords are at all times is iffy too, but that's not my biggest problem.

[Akayuuki]

it would be the stamina in side of the swords, see im resonating my stamina within the swords, and they are enhancing it and shoting it back to me via he swords in my hands. Thus, anyone who doesnt have the same stamina signature of me, will make it seem as though it cannot be pulled form the ground. hopefully thats good enough XD

[Herabec]

This seems more like an enhancement jutsu than a fighting style, and as such, the only way I can think of a two tier increase in speed even being feasible is if there was a stamina drain per post. And I don't mean a little C-rank drain either. Pushing your body two tiers faster is A-rank, I think. >_>

But, that's my opinion on the matter.

[Mishio]

it would be the stamina in side of the swords, see im resonating my stamina within the swords, and they are enhancing it and shoting it back to me via he swords in my hands. Thus, anyone who doesnt have the same stamina signature of me, will make it seem as though it cannot be pulled form the ground. hopefully thats good enough XD

Those are things you'd be able to do with chakra, but not stamina. Take it from the guy with the Tai-spec rpc. You can't store stamina in weapons like that. At all. And stamina signature? There's no such thing.

*noms mushy anvil*

[Akayuuki]

ehh, the speed isnt even all that big of the problem, its just the only way that i could see as making it useful really, cause if there isnt something giving him and edge, whats the point in getting it as a jutsu ? also, there are B Ranked jutsu that give you a single tier boost, so an A Ranked slot should let a two tier boost easily if you think a bout it.

But im willing to have it cost a B Rank per post to maintain the fighting style, but not an A Rank per post for something that i could do with just two B Ranks...


actually you can...look at Kennys rpc, he has a taijutsu that puts stamina into a weapon and flies faster and can turn i think ? Also, A Ranked techs allow use of chakra as well, so i can just include some chakra if i really needed to...

Also Mish, just because you havent done it...doesnt mean it cant be done lol you having a tai spec rpc has nothing to do with it.

[Mishio]

actually you can...look at Kennys rpc, he has a taijutsu that puts stamina into a weapon and flies faster and can turn i think ? Also, A Ranked techs allow use of chakra as well, so i can just include some chakra if i really needed to...

Also Mish, just because you havent done it...doesnt mean it cant be done lol you having a tai spec rpc has nothing to do with it.

Kinetic Projectile (http://www.theninja-forum.com/Vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1189866&postcount=1) is a ninjutsu, not a taijutsu. And the A-rank techs you're refering to are Scroll techniques, which is a rather unique exception to the rule. Infinate Sword Array isn't.

I was implying that due to my experience of rping a Tai-spec my entire time on this site, I'm more familair with what can and can't be done with Taijutsu then most.

*noms mushy anvil*

[Akayuuki]

so you cannot use stamina and push it into anything ?

if not, i will make this a fighting style still, but just make it use chakra as well, since A Ranked taijutsu fully master the use of chakra incorperated in them *nods*. ill actually work that in now, so its better.


Also, i changed it up to the two tiers off speed and cut it down to one, and focused more on the style than the enhancements, this is now fairly good i think.

[Herabec]

ehh, the speed isnt even all that big of the problem, its just the only way that i could see as making it useful really, cause if there isnt something giving him and edge, whats the point in getting it as a jutsu ? also, there are B Ranked jutsu that give you a single tier boost, so an A Ranked slot should let a two tier boost easily if you think a bout it.

But im willing to have it cost a B Rank per post to maintain the fighting style, but not an A Rank per post for something that i could do with just two B Ranks...


actually you can...look at Kennys rpc, he has a taijutsu that puts stamina into a weapon and flies faster and can turn i think ? Also, A Ranked techs allow use of chakra as well, so i can just include some chakra if i really needed to...

Also Mish, just because you havent done it...doesnt mean it cant be done lol you having a tai spec rpc has nothing to do with it.

Eh... That B-rank *ninjutsu* you were talking about doesn't stack with itself. So it's a +1 tier. Period. And it costs a B-rank per post it's up. If you want an +2 tier increase, I'm going to say it's an A-rank per post minimum. >_>

[Akayuuki]

i edited XD and changed lol also there is a B Ranked taijutsu made by mish that gives said boost as well lol but yeah changed.

[Oirarana]

I can't really see any particular issues to be honest, but I'm a little iffy about it

Sooo

A couple of days, then I'll approve it, if someone makes a legitimate complaint after that then this will have to be re-examined

[Akayuuki]

woicked, thanks alot oir.

[Kagemaru]

So, an entire Tier increase, clarify what you mean for me please, say...genin excellent to chuunin excellent for example, or do u mean just good to very good?

[Akayuuki]

tier is good to very good, genin to chuunin is Rank lol

[Kagemaru]

Also, their should be a chakra upkeep, for the detection ability your swords have.

[Akayuuki]

thats fine, ill add a C Rank per post up keep for the detection.

[Kennyrules]

You're countering every stealth jutsu out there. I would think C-rank is a bit low for that effect.

[Akayuuki]

well, kenny...if i can see you, your not being very stealthy are you ? XD i didn't really think that would be a factor in this fighting style...beacuse you know, if i can see, you your not being stealthy at all lol.

[jameshawking]

Right now you have four different jutsu in application.

Pick two


As per this jutsu, you want to nerf all stealth for 40 square feet, increase the efficiency of every move you do, and also move faster (20%) for a C-rank cost per turn, for an A-Rank technique (meaning whoever uses it needs to be at least a Chuunin, which means, at worst, this is 4% of their chakra per turn).


I'd advise you to pick one effect and stick to it.

[Akayuuki]

its not just a jutsu james...its a fighting style, it does different things and it is A Ranked so yeah <_<. also like i said...its not nerfing stealth, if you are retarded enough to run under swords flying downward than well...you shouldn't be doing stealth than ehh ? also its not like i can move with this dude, its 40 feet, and i cannot attack ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF IT.

so its pretty much, get out of the ring and well, your safe, that seems to be a pretty good danm draw back to me...

also if you care to look at the other ones i have said i will leave those for later and asked them to be moved but we do not have a jutsu mod, and no one seems to wanna move them so yeah.

you also forgot that it takes a B Ranked per post of stamina as well, also i changed it to a B Ranked per post of chakra instead of C Ranked.

[jameshawking]

It wasn't B-ranked when I looked at it.

Now, I could bring up the infamous A-Rank Fuuton jutsu global that only increases speed 25% but, as a direct result, also makes you "lighter". Or i could bring up the Raiton Custom jutsu, A-Ranked, that increases speed I think 50% by directly altering how fast your muscles can fire.

But I'm fairly sure either one of them, whose entire purpose is speed and is a higher rank, is sufficient evidence to say that you shouldn't be getting a 20% speed boost in addition to the other two effects noticed with a lower-ranked technique.

[Akayuuki]

uhhh have you never seen doragon flight ? its a B Ranked technique that grants a single tier in speed and is a taijutsu. Which is where the B Ranked stamina comes into play, and the other parts of the fighting style come into play with the B Ranked cost of chakra. *nods* Remember james, stamina is better at boosting physical strengths than chakra.

[jameshawking]

ah, okay.

So you just admitted that you're getting a good part of Dragon Flight in this technique, as well as other nifty effects, for an A-rank technique. With no actual increase in cost other than slot. And this version has an indefinite duration.

-Clarification-

You're getting the half effects of Dragon Flight, Efficiency of movement, and the ability to track not only people hiding, but people fighting you (1 or more), people attacking your allies, a good amount of battle positions, in a fairly large amount of space.


And yes, I knew about Dragon Flight. I wanted you to bring it up so that I could point out to you that its existence in no way makes your case for you.


Question: Clarify "cannot attack outside the area". Is it that you physically cannot leave the area? That your chakra cannot physically leave the area (thus negating genjutsu and ninjutsu attacks), that nothing at all of your can leave the area (negating projectiles), you cannot activate traps originating from outside the area? All of the above?


And what happens when you use this technique indoors?




EDIT
Wait a minute, this tehnique is for your B-Ranked missing-nin.

So he can't even make this technique without some higher level shinobi/MN helping him.

Who's helping you with this?

[Akayuuki]

im allowed to make an A Ranked technique and i can find someone to help me make it later on...this has already been discussed. Also, yes to all of the above, i cannot physically launch any kind of attack outside of that area of attack. Ninjutsu,genjutsu, taijutsu,projectiles, anything to i try and do will not leave the area of attack.

That is not true for someone attacking inside of the area of attack though, you can be a 100 feet away and attack my area of attack and do as much damage as you like.

Also james this is costing a B Rank of stamina and a B Rank of chakra, if youd like i can increase the chakra to that of an A Rank per post, if that would make it a bit more better ? ANNNND if the area is to big im willing to shorten the area of attack by half i guess ? or 1/4, just gimme some feed back.

[Kagemaru]

The area is fine Aka, thats not even half a football field to be honest. A-rank per post though does sound more appropriate though. *nods*

[Akayuuki]

the A Rank per post would be for chakra only, just letting everyone know that.

[Kagemaru]

I am well aware, that was all i meant Aka. ^^

[Akayuuki]

okay just making sure XD anyways. ill add that in now than *nods*

[Oirarana]

Alright, just a clarification, he can only sense his swords yes? Not anything that enters the field

[Akayuuki]

no....sensing people is part of the fighting style...thats what everyone was arguing about..thats how its been the whole time.

im pretty sure a single increase in speed and being able to move more fluidly isnt all that A Ranked worthy Oir lol

[Oirarana]

I thought you had removed it, it was early in the morning and I missed a sentence reading.

40 feet is pretty large, so not too sure about that but otherwise

[Akayuuki]

Downed to thirty *nods*

[jameshawking]

You ignored one of my questions akayuuki

[Akayuuki]

no actually...im pretty sure i didin't, and with Oir being Okay with this, im pretty sure everything i have answered thus far is fine..

[jameshawking]

What happens if you use this indoors <<

Where you can't just fling swords into the air, and where the 40 square foot field is hopped into bits by walls?

[Akayuuki]

than i cant use it ? XD if i cant throw my swords up, and they cant fall, i cant really use this, its kind of a big part of the fighting style XD i suppose i could go around and stick the swords into the ground. But if you let me do that well, your retarded, so ill just say, it cannot be used without the appropriate space.

[jameshawking]

-pokepoke- app please.

[Akayuuki]

dude....its common sense...the main premise of this jutsu...is to be able to throw the swords into the air, im not going to put something into the app that is useless, and actually a plain out stupid request. The jutsu it self states, the user must throw the swords up into the air and they than spread out and cover a 30 foot area, so unless my swords have senitance, and can fly on there own and find spots to land, im not adding that in lol

[jameshawking]

An A-Rank technique can easily convey the implied ability to throw a sword through a ceiling >_> Especially if throwing said sword was part of the technique.

So, no, if you agree that you shouldn't use this indoors, due to the fact that there are walls in the way of everything, you should have that in the application. If you don't, then you shouldn't have it in the application.

Applications aren't a "this is the gist of it" kind of deal. They're "This is what the jutsu does, period."

[Akayuuki]

uhh....throwing the swords through the ceiling would do what exactly ? get stuck in the ceiling ? or go through ? what good would that do james ? use your brain man...your nit picking at something that is ridiculous...seriously.

[jameshawking]

Use yours <<

Going through the ceiling would imply that they could also come back through the ceiling

Meaning that the technique would be unaffected by being inside, since it could form the field despite the building in its way.

If it couldn't, well, then it couldn't be used inside. And whether a technique can be used inside or not is fairly important.

[Akayuuki]

k so....if i throw a sword through a dry wall ceiling...and it makes through the ceiling....it is NOT going to come back through the exact same hole dude really ? are you serious ? your actually asking me these questions..

[Lionsbrew]

Okay leave the insulting and insinuating of insults out of the app process. Next its not unreasonable to state a special note saying this jutsu cannot be used anywhere without the proper area ect...it'll take a few seconds to type in.

[Akayuuki]

Yeah...Done...

[Oirarana]

Approved

You know the drill, abuse it, lose it, and I strangle you with a herring