Festival Event Feedback: Silence!

[SnIPpY]

Banks, I think some people should get a one-ticket consolation prize if they came close..... *hint hint*

But just check my PM in the inbox, maybe its worth something. Was very close...

[SillX]

You know what I figured the event out, but as some have mentioned before I sent the answer to the Clue Keeper -__- (Dumb Me) Now i feel like a failure xD Well next time, Congratz winners, and Great Event True, (a little too easy for me) xD

[chii]

whut? the orange masked shinobi is weak to fire? and they drop clues when defeated? how come the other AIs dropped none? things could've turn differently.

Katon Seal ruined this for me then. my chances were zilch from the start unless i had a different bloodline or none. well, i thought the clues were just from the jutsu description used by the AIs, so i didn't bother finding a way to defeat all them. i just defeated who i can. oh well~ D8

overall, the event was fun. i love deciphering codes (took some time since i am not familiar with that caesar's cipher thingy)~_~

re: KinKaida

i forgot about that knife D: since it's not available in travelling merchant's items.

and yes, some clues weren't actually clues at all. As mentioned somewhere ( Find the Enemy, Defeat what you can, Learn from what you cannot, and determine what clues if any you should ignore). I thought some enemies were not kill-able. meh, that's just me.

My point is why was the clue from the Yellow masked shinobi easily available through its jutsu description while the red and orange ones had to be dropped after defeating the AIs. I find it inconsistent.

[KinKaida]

Some clues weren't actually clues. They were sort of decoys, so to speak.

And you could have used the Flaming Knife weapon in the item shop to bypass your bl limitations.

Edit: Not consistent, but if you got the prior clues and were able to decode the encryptions, then it would have been made apparent that you did need to, presumably, kill the other warm toned ai.

Ah. The merchant really doesn't have any sort of fire elemental weap? That does kind of suck. o_o;

[AnimeMexicano]

Damn it, of all the times not to check a nindo during a event I had to pick this one e.e nvm event was great.

[SasukeUzumaki]

Please check my pm.It was so close to the answer!...:D

[UzumakiSasuke]

Oh man, how long was this event? And why do it on weekends and on war time? v.v I think it's so unique and difficult. Too bad I missed it. :(

[sasori9309]

I thought as much. Many people were unlucky enough to pm the Festival Clue Keeper. I believe they should get their prizes(if they did everything else right including deciphering the code and then using it to write their own pm). I myself figured out what the message should contain just from clues. And i figured out it should be coded from clues again. So why was FCK created anyway ? When i first saw it i thought i should send message to it and i really did(later i sent the same message to Festival Master of course). Why else would a NPC exsist if it doesn't give any new info, nor something else? I thought FCK was created intentionally to get the pm's, because Festival Master was already spotted in Silence(part of the event is figuring out to whome should you send the pm, right?AND the Master was just too obvious ;/). o.o yeah im aware that one of the clues said "Send it to the Master, of course" yet ... If you read everything I said carefully, and agree that there's no use of FCK, then you'll also agree with me that the thing which matters the most is the PM itself.Not to whome you sent it. If the PM itself is coded the right way, and meets the requirements(point out what you're weak and and what are you strong at, and so on) then what's the problem ?

Just my random thoughts. As i already suggested to banksy for future, events should be based on stages. You complete the first 3 stages, yet fail at the 4th? Well then you get 3/4 of the prize. In this case for exapmle total number of tickets given could be 4 ;) I believe this would motivate more ppl to participate AND reduce the amount of complaints.

[SnIPpY]

Definitely Sasori. Doing 95% of the event correctly should give at least some form of reward. I understand I cannot get the whole prize this time, but half would be great since we did do most of it

[sasori9309]

Well i threw it up as a suggestion ~ i seriously hope Event team thinks about it ;P

[truebanks]

The problem with giving half of if any of a reward at this stage is that it would increase the winners list by at least 10 people, and the way I am thinking of things woul ruin a possible prize option.

Additionally if I let one error go, why don't I let the rest of the errors go as well?

some people didn't encrypt their message to the Festival Master why dont they get a partial prize as well? Suddenly I have 30 people "winning" and my prize options become even less awesome. I am one to remain consistent with a policy in that I do not stray from the path I set originally for most if any reason. If I make an exception for one group of people,, it is unfair not to make the exception for others.

Enchii, The reasoning behind that NPC is to add an additional security layer to the event. If you did not figure out how to decipher the messages, but you got the translation from a friend, you would naturally message the wrong AI. Fitting to the theme of the event, war time communication, if you act on flawed information, or act before you have enough information, Then you would pay the price for it.

As far as Katon Seal making you unable to defeat the orange AI... I did not think of that. However, from your post, I can assume that you did not figure out to use fire against it? Is that true? In which case you wouldnt be able to defeat it anyway. I would have gladly let it slide and given you the information if you had known the weakness and messaged me. Note to self. Add sealing to future AI attacks to avoid this particular problem.



TLDR: I will not be awarding half prizes this time. Because it was not planned that way and to do so would undermine my integrity as a designer, and increase the "winners list" by around 20 people, limiting my prize options and harming the people that did everything right. however, in the future, I will do my best to try to work in some runner up rewards that are planned.

the second NPC added a new layer of difficulty, so of course it is going to screw some people up. Katon Seal will not be a problem in the future.


Finally: As for spending tickets, I would like everyone to hold off on such pms until the team decides what to do with this event. Thank you!

[Warlord]

Nice event true i enjoyed it although i sent the pm to festival clue keeper too lol. looking forward to the next event keep up the good work

[chii]

Truebanks, I understand where you are coming from.

I did not bother searching for any weakness. Since my first two encounters with the brown and purple masked shinobis, i managed to defeat them without using any specific jutsus. Then I was badly defeated by the rest. So I construed the clue that some AIs were not kill-able. Maybe next time, give the clues after defeating the AI? added security? how about just checking the inventory of those who claim they defeated such AI to see if they have the item that it dropped and gave the clue. quite troublesome, but hey. (this is a feedback thread after all ~_~)
Ever since that update on Katon Seal, I disregarded using/tagging any fire based jutsus (at times of event(s) and what not). Yes, I did not try using fire-jutsu against that particular AI. And I thought of using it, but I just did not use it as it would result the same as not using it.
As for PM'ing you... during the event? well, we both know that it's not allowed. But I really appreciate the thought.
Again, this is me learning from my mistakes. I do not have a problem with not winning this part. I just want to know what the possible situation(s) can be like so in future events, i can advance further.

edit:

m'kay. but when this happens again, which most likely will not, I will still hesitate to PM any event staff x3

[truebanks]

To be honest? The Katon seal thing is on me. As I completely blitzed on that, If you had brought it to my attention, I would have made an exception at the time because that is a rare and special case. If someone comes to me saying I am literally unable to use this element, and I believe this is the weakness. If they have legitimate reason to do so I will give them the resulting clue as they would have been able to do it anyway, if they are lieing to me, or the weakness is wrong, I would ignore it.

as for for the clues post AI, I did it the way I did to intentionally confuse people and make them THINK on the clues.

The funny thing is. the three warm color AI were the only ones that had legitimate messages at all.
I just picked random letters for the rest xD

[bobpolson]

One of the best events! Good Job true!

It's a pity I was so close but did not win. The only feedback I have is about clues on weaknesses of AIs. It was almost impossible to figure out the weaknesses without brute forcing (trying all jutsus on them). I believe many players did that (I did not and failed). So my suggestion is to design AIs which could be defeated by certain combo - which must be figured out from specific clues. That will make brute forcing almost impossible... Hence fair

Other than that I think it was excellent!

[HiroPetrelli]

just of note. all AI's (except for shine's) could be beaten with brute force, if nezumi was used.

therefore...perhaps make the AI's deal AoE damage next time if the goal is for players to find weaknesses.

[truebanks]

just of note. all AI's (except for shine's) could be beaten with brute force, if nezumi was used.

therefore...perhaps make the AI's deal AoE damage next time if the goal is for players to find weaknesses.

I am aware of that. This was considered and determined to be irrelevant. The point wasnt to beat them all. Infact, doing so would only confuse you more.


Bob: I always feel so bad when I read your messages x.x you are ALWAYS so close. every single time you do so well! THank you for your feedback!

[bobpolson]

just of note. all AI's (except for shine's) could be beaten with brute force, if nezumi was used.

Here my assumption is that events are for all ranks, not only Jounins and higher.
And another assumption is that design of an AI which could be killed by only specific combo is possible w/o much recoding. Otherwise there are too many loopholes...

[Fou-Lu]

I figured out the Julius Caesar part, but never thought there was something called "Caesar cipher", I've looked into him in 2 different languaged wikipedias but couldn't find anything about this -.-

Anyway, good event, hopefully the next one won't be so "elitist" in these ways >_< (no offense)

EDIT: Also, too bad it was launched on a weekend, I can't stay much time in front of a computer if my girlfriend is with me.

[RailT]

just of note. all AI's (except for shine's) could be beaten with brute force, if nezumi was used.

therefore...perhaps make the AI's deal AoE damage next time if the goal is for players to find weaknesses.

You could kill Shine's with brute force too, just saying o.o