Your Opinion On Taijutsu compared to the other 3 offenceses Weapon/Ninjutsu/Genjutsu

[apocalips_orocimaru]

Give you opinion on taijutsu compared to the other 3 offences and post what is on your mind do you consider there is balance is Taijutsu overpowered , its ok , needs improvement also post about the other offences .
Keep the trolling at the minimum .






Panpan lover :D

[Mr_Supertramp]

From what I gather some offenses are simply easier to use than others.

Like how gen users need to know their jutsu's main generals to combo (meaning there's little choice as to which jutsu you can use in a given round, if you've debuffed the opponent in an earlier round), but other offenses have pretty much a 3 in 4 chance of avoiding a main gen debuff and that's if they don't know their generals at all. As you can see the margin for error is much smaller for a genjutsu user, hence the smallest mistake can cost them the fight.

That and damage is always instant, so before (defensive; yes, this also means hp) endgame high damage offenses >> low damage offenses, always.

TL;DR: Tai may or may not be overpowered, but it'll definitely seem that way, because any random monkey could use the offense about as well as anyone else.

edit: @RailT: That's not really the point. At the competitive level, I fully expect both players to know their jutsu generals and their opponent's. I was simply using that as an example to help illustrate how some offenses are easier to use than others, not criticizing.

[Fallen_Fury]

This thread could do a lot better if you use facts rather then opinions. Since, there is a big difference between the two.

[apocalips_orocimaru]

Your a nin user fallen and you need facts v_v' comon , its abvious enouf v_v

[RailT]

No trolling in troll thread created by troll? What is this blasphemy?!

@Tramp That's not really how it goes. Derps don't know their main generals. That still doesn't mean other offenses don't need to know those.

I like how you're ranting about losing against tai users when you have tai weakness, apocalips n.n'

[WillOfGlacier]

Im a MK and I barely win against SW with my walls...having less than 200k after a battle against some1 you're supposed to have the upper hand on aint exactly to my liking..a single stun could mean a DKO.
and lol when SW rapes SY/SoT they have over 500k HP left! its like there is no savin them from a horrible defeat

well SW is like a prefered stock round ere...prefered in almost everythin...so go get urself a shiney SW in the market now

[apocalips_orocimaru]

No trolling in troll thread created by troll? What is this blasphemy?!

@Tramp That's not really how it goes. Derps don't know their main generals. That still doesn't mean other offenses don't need to know those.

I like how you're ranting about losing against tai users when you have tai weakness, apocalips n.n'

Maybe you diden't understand the thread purpose i don't want my tai weakness to disapear , if this is the idea of the balance team to make balance or to have the bloodline balance then ok its fine by me , but i don't like to get destroyed by a tai user , berly have a chance to beat a weapon user with tier2/crimson/walls/clan , also see that genjutsu users are having problems also wen fighting SW , not to mention if you search the jutsu thread v2 in one post panama posted and told us that for ex. if a weapon user should be able to dko a SW/tai user if he uses strategy and SW/tai user is a noob.

Since wen did SW and Taijutsu had to become the power house of tnr just because a players has sw and wants to become strong , that souds like power abuse if you ask me .

You either make all offences become strong against one tipe , weak against second and 50/50 against 2 others or don't make one offence op and leave the other ones deserted.

In the last so called updated they told nin is better know against weapon and is like tai vs nin , but thats all bull@#$ its even harder know , and not going to tell about genjutsu cuz well they are even worse.

I also recommend to search the jutsu thread and look for any time i ask someone to take/change sot/nin weakness to tai , but i can tell you ,won't find anithyng because i was more concern about ninjutsu raw dmg compared to lotbb then then tai/sw vs ninjutsu, because i knew logical tai/sw should be able to beat sot/nin even without strategy.


I am a troll ?? maybe but this time is not about a particular jutsu > (BE) > its about a particular offence and jutsu arsenal which is op compared to the other offences and because the ones responsible with it don't take action.

[RailT]

i don't want my tai weakness to disapear , if this is the idea of the balance team to make balance or to have the bloodline balance then ok its fine by me , but i don't like to get destroyed by a tai user also see that genjutsu users are having problems also wen fighting SW

In the last so called updated they told nin is better know against weapon and is like tai vs nin , but thats all bull@#$ its even harder know , and not going to tell about genjutsu cuz well they are even worse.

I am a troll ?? maybe but this time is not about a particular jutsu > (BE) > its about a particular offence and jutsu arsenal which is op compared to the other offences and because the ones responsible with it don't take action.

1. Nice contradiction there. Basically, you don't mind being weak against tai but you don't want to lose against it. Okay..

2. @This is mostly for william If you're saying that genjutsu sucks even now..I must say you're nuts. I really like the genjutsu as it is now.
Also, I'm seeing nin users DKOing with tai user and tai user barely winning them. So I think nin user must be pretty noob if SW user is winning with 500k+ health. Or that tai user is dual offense while nin user isn't.

3. Doesn't change the fact that you're a troll. Only that instead of ranting about BE you're ranting about taijutsu.

[Gerd]

1. Nice contradiction there. Basically, you don't mind being weak against tai but you don't want to lose against it. Okay..

2. @This is mostly for william If you're saying that genjutsu sucks even now..I must say you're nuts. I really like the genjutsu as it is now.
Also, I'm seeing nin users DKOing with tai user and tai user barely winning them. So I think nin user must be pretty noob if SW user is winning with 500k+ health. Or that tai user is dual offense while nin user isn't.

3. Doesn't change the fact that you're a troll. Only that instead of ranting about BE you're ranting about taijutsu.

For point 1
I think he means he doesn't mind to lose against tai , but not by a very high margin

[Magyoku]

I think everyone will be happy if weakness will be removed from A rank and B rank bloodlines so no one could complain about it anymore ............

[apocalips_orocimaru]

I think everyone will be happy if weakness will be removed from A rank and B rank bloodlines so no one could complain about it anymore ............

I also agree making A-rank bl and B-rank have offence base weakness was a bad idea and never helped in the balance process , maybe a elemental weakness would had been a more balanced attribute , like it was for a period last year o.o'

And maybe then the current jutsu updates would work o.o'/ and i am atlast 50% sure that would be it o.o'


Edit: I am waithing for gunz damange update and then maybe things will be better , lets hope for know.

[uncnzrd]

DKO most of LotBB users, almoust be killed
defeated by smart capped defs MK users, only DKO a few times v.v (uncapped MK doesnt work, since i have 3offs capped)
kill or almoust DKO strong SoT+walls (yeah, even killed+DKO by faithy when i didnt went with main setup)
kill SY and even get killed by SY multi off(weap+gen)
dko VotSK users......
so yeah.... why is tai OP?

i see SoT>LotBB isnt working that much..... but MK>SW sure works

[Magyoku]

unc it's not only about tai , everyone complains at some off when they see that lose if had weakness to it ........

And being serious jounin justu update on taijutsu kinda suck's , it doesn't look like tai was taked in consideration while nin , gen and weapon were updated .......... jounin taijutsu jutsu like Hidden Lethality , Crescent Kick Combo , Savage Rush , Electric Ruin need to get a update to keep up with the rest gen , nin and weapon jounin jutsus ..........

[Raja]

Tai often has the upper hand due to little things that make the difference and from what i've gathered countering tai jutsu such as CD has been made less likely due to limiting/changing gens on for example weap jutsus from Strength to something else, this all has to do with matching up the already strong SW better against everything else. SW also matches up in multioff game really well due to it's Bl jutsu boosting all offenses instead of 1 without making a difference in baseline, makes me wonder why all jutsu aren't the same...

To me it's pretty clear certain player/s are more considerate regarding their own offense/bl, call it being more cautious of your own or corruption, i'm sure you all know who or what i'm talking about anyway.

[Quinton345]

You have to remember that damage is set to level 200 atm and since tai is so much more reliant on raw damage than the other offenses they gain the most from this faux cap. Lets just wait for damage updates then make an assessment.

[apocalips_orocimaru]

You have to remember that damage is set to level 200 atm and since tai is so much more reliant on raw damage than the other offenses they gain the most from this faux cap. Lets just wait for damage updates then make an assessment.

yea its true tai has the advantage now but consider what if when damage is set back to normal and you face a lvl 200 nin vs a lvl 200 tai for ex. and the effects don't realy help at all o.o' on how they are suposed to help then tai would still win and be op o.o' but yes your right on that point, also waithing for gun to re-set the jutsus back to normal so we can test things out and also waithing fot the bl updates o.o pep are talking about in bl thread .

[NamonakiHito]

If you have a problem with a moderator, appeal directly to him/her, or to a higher power. Cursing and complaining in a thread won't get you anywhere.

[Hyuugakro]

a str based jutsu deals 200k + damage after using CD on SG + walls.

funny thing, right?

or wait. AA is not str based now?

[RailT]

>implying 200k is much :,D
Seriously now n.n'

[Quinton345]

It is when you consider that would be roughly 240k damage on anything that doesn't resist it. and I'm prettu sure AA still uses str and if he didn't include residual than the total damage was probably close to 260k.